Showing posts with label Parts. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Parts. Show all posts

Saturday, July 2, 2011

My Last Shipment from Electro Auto?

Today is July 2, 2011 and I think I just got my last shipment from Electro Automotive!  Well I am actually waiting for two final things but I don't know that I'll ever get them.


The final part I am waiting for is the pair of engine cover hold-down pins, but I don't intend to use them so I don't care if they don't show up.

Now, the real final, final part I'm waiting for is the "Motor Field Bus Bar", a copper bar wrapped in heat shrink tubing that mounts between two of the studs on the electric motor.  This part is not specifically called out on the parts list on the invoice, but as I was wiring up the motor I discovered it was missing.  I emailed Shari about the missing part on May 3, almost 2 months ago.  To my utter lack of surprise, I didn't even get a response.  If it shows up before I need to energize the motor, great.  Otherwise I'll build one myself out of copper bars.

I feel a great weight lifted off my shoulders, that I'm no longer subject to the whims of EAs finances, staff or suppliers.  Woo hoo!  To paraphrase Obi-Wan Kenobi: "I felt a great awakening in the Force, as if millions of voices suddenly cried out in joy and were seen driving their electric cars. I believe something wonderful has happened."

Sunday, May 22, 2011

Final Parts Dribbling In

When I got back from my trip to Infineon, I had a small box from ElectroAuto waiting.  Inside I found:

The lug crimper.  I'm not going to use this because the hydraulic one I borrowed from Kelly is far superior.


The contactor diode.  I can't find anything in the instructions that says which terminals to attach this to on the contactor, so I'll have to do some research later.


Positive and negative terminal posts.  The electrical system design uses these posts to be the main mounting points of the positive and ground parts of the circuit.


Battery box weather stripping.  This sticks onto the top edge of the battery boxes and seals out the elements.


Wiring harness.  This is a pre-built harness to accelerate the process of hooking up various electric bits.


This means the very last parts I'm still waiting for are the hood pins!  I also realize now that I'm at the point of wiring up the high-current DC cables, that I'm missing a copper piece that goes between two posts of the electric motor.  It's a flat copper bar with heatshrink tubing shrunk onto it, with a hole drilled in each end.  I emailed Shari that I didn't realize I was missing this part because it's not explicitly listed on the shipping list.  Of course I didn't get a reply, but I'm hoping it will just show up some day.  Worst case I can fabricate it myself.

Sunday, April 24, 2011

and More and More Parts

As a result of my threatened visit to the EA seminars or EA's improvements in cash flow, I got a flood of parts which is nearly everything I need to complete the job.  Here is the 120V AC - 120V DC charger.  If I find that 120V charging takes too long, I may buy a 240V AC charger and wire them in parallel.




Here is the contactor:


Here is the DC-DC converter.  It takes a feed off the battery pack and provides 12V to the existing systems in the car such as lights, radio, etc.


Now all I'm waiting for are the wire crimper, terminal blocks, battery box weather stripping and hood pins.  I don't know when these will arrive, if ever so I'm going to buy them from other sources so I can continue the project.

Wednesday, April 13, 2011

My Second Visit with Electro Auto

I'm sorry this post has taken a long time to put up, but my visit with EA was followed by a two-week solar monitoring installation trip to Infineon Raceway in Sonoma, north of San Francisco.  Then it took about two weeks to catch back up on life.

My visit was a direct result of the poor communication and broken promises I've experienced by EA.  As you can read in previous posts, I've been waiting for about 9 months for a significant number of expensive parts and have had no luck getting any kind of response to my calls and emails.  An alert reader pointed out that EA was beginning to hold monthly electric car seminars in San Jose.  I emailed EA that I was going to drive up on the day of their March seminar and tell their attendees what kind of business they're running.  I also wanted parts or the cash equivalent refunded so I could buy them from other suppliers.  I also threatened to take them to court.

This got a response from Shari:

"The seminar would not be an appropriate time and place for this discussion.  When we are doing a seminar, our mental focus is completely on that course material, and even the "break" times are pretty much filled with answering student questions."  "The past couple years have been extraordinarily brutal, financially.  We went from $xx gross WEEKLY sales to the same amount as gross QUARTERLY sales.  We went from us plus a staff of 3 full timers and 5 part timers to just the two of us.  From what we hear from our suppliers, our situation was not unusual during this difficult time.  Finally, this spring, we are seeing signs of recovery, and we are pursuing every avenue of cash flow we can find in order to get caught up on our obligations, able to carry inventory, and to deliver promptly.  I believe we can be at that point this summer."

Then a flurry of parts started arriving, including the struts, shocks, springs, torsion bars and bushings, charger, DC/DC converter and contactor.  Maybe they were reacting to having income from the seminars, but maybe I was just the squeakiest wheel and I could affect their business by protesting in front of the following seminars.  I decided I was still going to go and told Shari by email.

On the morning of March 19, I left home around 6 AM and arrived at the seminar location in San Jose at about 9:30.  Nobody was there yet so I waited in the rain outside the building.  After a while I saw Mike from EA park and start walking towards the building.  He saw me and then recognized me and nearly stopped in the street, but kept walking to me.  Now I'm going to try to describe our conversation.  I'm sure won't get it exactly right, so any mistakes are mine.  You'll get the gist of the discussion.

I said "Morning Mike, remember me?"  He said he did and immediately got very defensive.  He asked me what I wanted and I said I wanted the rest of my parts for the car.  He said I just got a big shipment of parts, what was I doing there.  I explained that I hadn't had any email or phone calls returned in months.  He said, literally, "What do you want me to do, slit my wrists?".  I said of course I don't want that, but I do want you to understand that you owe a lot of people parts that they've paid for and haven't received.  He then said "Who made you God?".  I tried to stay calm and factual, so I said "Of course I'm not God, but a lot of people have contacted me because they are waiting for parts too."  He then started describing their financial problems.  He tried to get me to understand the difficulties of running a small business.  He asked me what I did for a living and I told him I was an engineer.  He then asked if I ever had to make a payroll and I said yes.  He then looked at me like I've been through the same kind of situation.  They have had some very bad problems due to the economy and a big drop in orders, but now with the seminars they have money coming in and are working to ship the backlog of waiting parts.  I said I'm happy that things are turning around, but you have a lot of very unhappy customers out there.  He told me a story that one of his former employees told him he was a "shitty manager", and it's hard to run a business if you're only good at building car designs.  I agreed that it's hard to be good at many different things, but I thought that Shari was handling the business side.  He just sighed.  He completely changed his attitude and seemed like all the air had come out of him and he was beaten down by the circumstances of the last year or so.

I then tried to take a different tack and said that as long as parts were flowing again, I would suggest that he work on communicating with his customers.  Return emails promptly and completely, answer the phone and tell the truth.  I pointed out the phone number listed on the web site wasn't correct and Shari's packing slip emails actually say

" If you have any questions about your order, please contact Bill Lentfer at bill@electroauto.com or 831-251-8656. He will get back to you by the next business day at the latest."  

The problem is Bill doesn't work for them anymore and doesn't respond at all at that email or phone number.  They need to correct everything and go back to notify all customers what the status of their parts is.  I asked him why they didn't simply answer the phone.  He mumbled something about "You just don't understand".  I later realized that they were probably getting calls from collection agencies and other nasty people and were

I said that I hoped I had helped him understand what he was putting his paying customers through, and to ship parts ASAP and stay in effective communication.  He thanked me for having a calm conversation about the issues and admitted when he saw me standing on the sidewalk "you scared the shit out of me."  I told him I was sorry that it had come to this, but I ran out of options, and I was lucky that I was within driving distance, something that many of his other customers didn't have the luxury of.  We shook hands and he went inside and I got in my car and drove up to start on my solar installation.

I'm hoping that other people have been contacted or have had some parts show up.  I know one person making one visit isn't going to change the world, but I hope it had some small effect.  Please let me know if you've been contacted or received some parts in the last month or so.  Fingers crossed!

Thursday, March 17, 2011

Another Day Another Box of Parts

Today I got a box with the torsion bars and control arm bushings.  These are replacements for the ones already installed in the front suspension, but I'm guessing they're heavier gauge to keep the car flatter through a turn, given the additional weight.


Shari says I already have the engine loom, so that leaves the contactor (on the way), DC/DC converter (on the way), charger (on the way), wire crimper, high current terminal blocks, battery box weather stripping and hood pins.

I have been contacted by another person who's been waiting for a costly replacement part for nearly two years.  Shari definitely doesn't want me to go to the seminar but I feel it's the only leverage I (and through me other customers) have.

Wednesday, February 23, 2011

Frustration With Electro Automotive for Missing Parts

I just don't understand what EA is doing.  They're happy to make promises and take your money but after that, it's unreturned emails & voicemails and a dribble of parts if you're lucky.


It's been 9 months for me and I'm still waiting for nearly $6K worth of parts.  I've threatened legal action - nothing.  My last email to them was that I would sit outside the building at their event in March in San Jose and hand out flyers warning people not to buy their system - no response.  My frustration level is off the charts right now and I'm going to do it.  Anybody else within driving distance is welcome to join me on Saturday March 19.

http://www.electroauto.com/3DaySeminar.shtml
 

If you're a paying customer of EA and are still waiting for parts, please email me at mwbrown42@gmail.com with your name, when you placed your initial order, and an estimated value of the parts you're still waiting for.  If you have all of your parts now but had shipping delays or communication issues, let me know too.  I'll put all of our names on the flyer to explain the situation of current paying customers.

I posted this notice to the 914EV forum, and 15 minutes later I have confirmation of over $20K of waiting orders from 3 people.  I'll keep this updated as the event date approaches.

Saturday, December 4, 2010

More Parts!

I received an email from Shari at ElectroAutomotive that she shipped a box of parts to me.  According to her updated invoice and cross-checking against the parts in the box, I got:

- Circuit breaker, charger mount rubber feet, all battery box holddown studs, mid-exhaust outlet, battery lugs and interconnect straps, hydrometer, bulk wire, 3-wire cable, front-to-rear wire, key switch relay, charger interlock relay, potbox relay, motor overtemp relay, fuse block and fuses, electrical connector kit, trunk lid weatherstripping and the Convert It book.

This means I'm still waiting for:

- motor adapter hub and bushing, motor controller, main contactor, DC/DC converter, battery charger, all suspension parts, heavy cable, wire crimper, cable crimper, engine compartment loom, two high current terminal blocks, battery box weatherstripping and the hood pin set.

I'm glad EA is stepping up and getting me a stream of parts.  There are some significant parts remaining and I'm stuck on the straight path through the steps right now, waiting for the motor adapter hub and bushing.  I'm going to have to jump around a bit, doing what I can with the parts I have.  I'm also doing the renovation in parallel, so there's no lack of things to work on.

Here are the parts in all of their glory:

Saturday, November 13, 2010

Went to ElectroAuto and got Some of the Parts

After placing my order with ElectroAuto 22 weeks ago, I've had zero contact and I was getting worried.  They promised 6 - 8 weeks for the whole kit.  Did they order my parts yet?  What is ready for pick up?  Did they go bankrupt and my money is gone?  I knew going in that they were well known for delays in sending parts, but when I stopped getting replies I had to take some action.  Luckily I live about 2.5 hours away from their site, so on Saturday morning I prepped my pickup truck and drive up.

My luck continued to hold as both Mike and Shari were home.  They were sure surprised to see me and Mike said I should have called ahead first.  I explained that I had been calling and emailing for several weeks with no response, so I was here to take whatever parts were ready.  They both went to work around the shop and in a couple of storage bins to pull the parts together.  Mike was very helpful, helping me cross-check the parts and showed me how to use the rivnut tool.  He said at one point "We once had 7 people working here, now it's just the two of us and a drunk".  Hmmm.

After about 3 hours of searching, my truck was loaded up with:Warp 9 motor, transmission adapter plate and spacer, potbox, several mounting pieces, gauges, battery frames & holders (but not the Allthread rods), fans and vent piping, Noalox, grease, transmission fluid, bolts & nuts and some electrical connectors.

So that leaves me still waiting for: Curtis controller, contactor, DC/DC converter, circuit breaker, Zivan charger, Allthread rods, all suspension components, cable, battery lugs, battery interconnect straps, crimpers, engine loom, relays, high current terminal blocks, fuse block, battery box weatherstripping and hood pins.  Shari couldn't tell me if the big expensive parts had even been ordered, and only spoke to me and made eye contact once during my whole visit, saying she would check on the remaining parts.

Luckily I can get started and make good progress while waiting for the other parts.

An alternative exists for me to get the controller, contactor, circuit breaker, DC/DC converter, charger and 2/0 cable.  I met a man at the Alternative Car Show at Hearst Castle about a month ago, and he bought a kit from ElectroAuto about 3 years ago for a VW Bus but never did the conversion.  I've emailed Shari and asked if she hasn't ordered these parts, to return my money for them and I'll buy them from this guy.  We'll see if she responds...

So here are the pictures of the parts!



Saturday, July 31, 2010

ElectroAuto story on National Public Radio

A colleague driving home from work heard a story about Mike Brown and his work with electric cars on NPR (National Public Radio).  Of course it wasn't about me (but I can dream...), it was about the original electric car Mike Brown and his wife Shari at ElectroAuto, where I'm getting the electric kit for my 914 project.  I should be getting the call to come and pick up the kit within the next few weeks.

Here is the story, you should listen to the audio and read the text as they're not exactly the same.

Way to go Mike and Shari, getting the word out about electric conversion projects, as we approach the launch of several factory-made plug-in electric cars.

Saturday, July 10, 2010

Buying the remaining conversion components

Since we're so close to getting the car back and getting the electric conversion kit, I'm ordering the final components I'll need in the conversion process.

First up is a great piece of kit, a replacement fusebox from JWest Engineering.  The original fusebox uses Good-And-Plenty shaped fuses that are held in place by a tiny amount of friction.  The new fusebox has modern blade fuses, and bolts directly in place of the original.  For only $105, it's a great product that brings the electrical system up to modern standards.

Next is the PakTrakr battery monitoring system.  As I've written before, I've chosen this product to monitor the battery pack and have written a custom application for my Droid phone to display the data generated by the PakTrakr in a graphical manner, while tracking real-time trip distance and remaining miles on the charge.

As I've also written before, I'm abandoning the spare-tire-air-pressure-windshield-washer system.  I spent many hours trying to retrofit a tiny electric switch where the washer fluid valve was mounted in the windshield wiper / blinker mechanism inside the steering column.  Trying to make a tiny yet strong custom bracket just wasn't working out, so I started searching around for a Porsche 924 mechanism, which includes the electric upgrade.  I grabbed one for $50 on eBay, which is a great deal.  As a bonus it looks like the horn contacts are in great shape too.

I ordered a strip of basketweave material for restoring the dashboard.  The dashboard in my car has been hacked over the years, so this should give a nice clean look.

In the near future I'll be buying a Kenwood KDC-BT945U stereo.  I've chosen this unit because it has a USB cable that I can connect to my Droid.  This will allow the stereo to play the songs stored in the phone, and keep it charged while driving.  It also has a Bluetooth connection to allow me to make hands-free calls, with the caller's voice coming through the speaker system.

Thursday, June 3, 2010

My Visit to Electro Automotive

I am getting close to the point where I had to order the electric component kits from ElectroAutomotive, so they'll arrive around the same time the car is done at the body shop.

I had a meeting in Los Gatos in the south part of the Bay Area and EA's workshop is in nearby Felton, so I gave them a call to see if I could stop by to talk about the final details of my project and finalize the order.  Mike agreed, so after my meeting I headed over and found his place in a great hilly forested area a few miles from the ocean.

Mike showed me around his workshop, which was frankly spotless.  Operating room machine shop clean.  Shocking!  As we went through each big item in the kit, he showed me the part if he already had it in stock, and explained its history and pros and cons.  After we came to the decision on the DC kit, with 20 6V batteries targeting range over top speed, we deleted a few components that I already have to save a bit of money.  Mike's wife Shari then hit the spreadsheet and presented me with my grand total.  I agreed to arrange for an electronic check for half of the amount as soon as I got home, with the other half coming in about a month after I sold some stock.

They explained that the parts for the kit should all be ordered and received in about 6 weeks.  I will drive my pickup up to their place on a Saturday afternoon and we'll load up everything for the drive home.

I tried to take a picture to prove how clean the shop is, but the battery on my Droid gave out, sorry!

All in all it was a great visit with Mike and Shari, and now I'm committed to the kit and making the car a reality!

Tuesday, October 13, 2009

First parts order

Well I just placed my first order for parts from Pelican Parts.  They are the leading distributor of parts for old Porsches and BMWs.  They also have great technical articles that explain how to perform many kinds of parts replacement and repairs.  I got the passenger window seal, two CV boots, lithium grease, shift linkage bushing kit and 6 instrument gauge light bulbs, all for $75, with free shipping!  Can't beat that.  They're located in Los Angeles so I should normally get next-day delivery of anything that's in stock.